Our special guest is Jay Tunney, whose father Gene Tunney was heavyweight boxing champion 1926-1928 and victorious in one of the most famous boxing matches in history, the so-called Long Count fight with Jack Dempsey. Jay Tunney's book is "The Prizefighter and the Playwright: Gene Tunney and George Bernard Shaw." The two were friends despite an age difference of 40 years and the fact that they came from entirely different worlds. But Shaw loved boxing and Tunney loved great literature.